Lois
You are so cynical, so perverse, and so right. Why would the channel of communication gratuitously make an ass of themselves again, unless their actions serve a "greater good".
never a jw
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QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage
by wisdomfrombelow inthe article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.
they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.
perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.
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What is spirit, exactly?
by Viviane ini've always wondered that.
recently i asked that question on another thread and didn't really get ananswer.
cofty made an excellent point that we often hear what it isn't, but that really isn't useful.. so, what is it?
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never a jw
Tough, tough. Hell I am not risking making a fool of myself. I have done it enough. You speculate away.
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OMG I'm so happy!!!!
by Julia Orwell inyup, the apostate is happy.
i shouldn't be, right, because my life is empty without "jehovah" and the organisation.. but i just got a job at one of the best theme parks in the world, which is so what i want to do, and it's the first permanent job i've had since i lost my government job in 2012!.
the job pays minimum wage but i don't care because working in tourism and entertainment is what i want to do!
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never a jw
You are living the perfect life. Doing what you love and even get paid for that. Congratulations!
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Great campagne in Portugal (ex-JW)
by TJ Curioso ini like to tell you what we've been doing these past few days here in portugal (ex-jw).
we create a brochure and printing, so we can send to the maximum of congregations in portugal.
some individuals were also covered in this campaign.. the title of the pamphlet is: "when will the kingdom arrive?".
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never a jw
TJ you have a PM
Apostate tizzy: "pathetic" is a strong word. I also noticed the misunderstanding of VG, but I don't think your reaction is the appropriate one. Calm down!
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I finally Found it Again! The Worst Quote in WT History.
by objectivetruth in*** w55 7/15 p. 436 war from heaven brings peace to earth ***.
men can spray a field with chemicals that kill weeds but spare crops; too bad they cannot spray cities with bombs that blow the bad to bits but leave the innocent intact..
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never a jw
I think is the best quote. When the WT is silent is when they get closer to the truth and when they cause the least damage. BEST EVER
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BOE re:Adjusted Process to Accelerate Kingdom Hall Construction
by TTATTelder inmay 12, 2014. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: adjusted process to accelerate kingdom hall construction.
dear brothers:.
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never a jw
Someone, when letter 2 was posted, said that these guys don't know what they are doing. Actually we are not giving them enough credit. They kept hidden even from the elders the 5,000 "deductible". So in letter #3, after the pledge has been done, the seller decides to tell the buyer "well, one caveat, the insurance you bought doesn't really cover everything, in most cases (repairs under 5K) you pay. The insurance covers rare expensive accidents, and even in those cases we will decide if we want to cover it.
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One thing about this site that bothers me
by keyser soze inthe constant references to 'window washers' as something derogatory.. i understand the context of it-that most jws are uneducated, and unqualified to do much more.
but sometimes the references seem snobbish, almost mean-spirited.
one poster, on another thread, essentially referred to window washers as 'losers'.
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never a jw
Agree,
I am guilty of laughing at the very funny posts by out-law and others. The reality is that the window-washer remark is a stereotype that I doubt very much fits reality. True, on average, JW's are less educated, but they compensate with good behaviour and work ethic that seems to be better than average. Therefore, it is possible that they are given greater responsibilities, more opportunities for training and advancement at their work place. So the window washer does not fit well even to Hispanic immigrants who tend to take low paying jobs. I happen to know this community well because I am one of them. I can tell you from personal experience that among immigrant Hispanic men, construction and technical work are the most common form of employment. Among women, the employment overwhelmingly is along the lines of baby sitting and house cleaning. In this regard, I suspect there's a lot of cash exchanging hands that go unreported to agencies responsible for collecting income tax, but that's a different thread altogether.
Even if statistics showed that JW's are more likely to be window washers than the average person, we should abstain from these derogatory remarks for the sake of avoiding turning off people who are starting to have doubts and are searching for answers in this site.
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women should go back to the kitchen
by never a jw ini found on another thread a quote from awake 1967 aug 22,page 27-28. it's from an article where the wt proves that women should acquiesce to their husbands.
within the article i found something that suggests more intellectual dishonesty from the wt writers.. that it is in the best interests of both.
sexes for man to take the lead is also supported.
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LOng hair gal,
The world is a much better place today for women, but the WT had nothing to do with it. If anyting. it's made it worse. They actually still believe the crap that they wrote in the article. They don't publish it anymore because they need to look more appealing to potential converts to eventually get more donations and preaching hours, which in turn will make more converts that can contribute more donations.
I have never been a JW, but I attended more meetings than many new converts. The literature and speeches are still reminding women to submit, even if the husband is uncaring or less than fit to lead. The info in the old Awake is still relevant to the rank and file and its conclusion are still applied by men to oppress and control their wives.
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women should go back to the kitchen
by never a jw ini found on another thread a quote from awake 1967 aug 22,page 27-28. it's from an article where the wt proves that women should acquiesce to their husbands.
within the article i found something that suggests more intellectual dishonesty from the wt writers.. that it is in the best interests of both.
sexes for man to take the lead is also supported.
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never a jw
The following is some sort of review of the book I found in another site. Pretty much supports WT mentality, except that the context of the book was sexuality, something the WT writer leaves out in the 1967 article. This commentary gives an idea about the contents of the book The Power of Sexual Surrender. I must say that the WT was not, or is not, very different from other fundamentalist religions.
"The Power of Sexual Surrender May 29, 2002 Marie N. Robinson MD, a Cornell educated psychiatrist devoted her New York City practice to the treatment of frigidity. Her small book, The Power of Sexual Surrender (1958) is the sanest work on feminine psychology ever written. In a world where thousands of self-help books are published, this eloquent guide to sexual health and happiness is out of print. The reason? It is politically incorrect. Dr. Robinson writes that a woman's identity lies in an "essential feminine altruism." A woman's self-expression and power is based on making her husband and children her first priority. Similarly, her sexual satisfaction and spiritual fecundity depend on self-surrender. Robinson says men and women are different by nature. Men are designed for mastery of the external (physical) world, and women for mastery of the internal (spiritual) world and the home. These are not social stereotypes, as feminists argue. "Women are designed for duties different from those of the marketplace, another kind of stress entirely," writes Robinson. They "tend to lose their essential womanliness if they stay [in the marketplace] by choice." (149) Dr. Robinson says that millions of American women suffer from frigidity. While she explores many complex causes in detail, she notes that frigid women universally adopt the feminist view. This view (that men exploit woman and a career as a wife and mother is demeaning) creates an "emotional logjam" that impedes sexual response and psychological development. According to Robinson, modern women have an identity crisis because they think they are no longer needed as women. Before the industrial revolution, the home was the center of all life and a woman was the indispensable center of the home. She prepared clothing and food, reared and trained the children and helped with farm tasks. The industrial revolution seemed to make women obsolete. Everything could be bought in stores. The home was empty. Children went to school, husbands to work. Children were not needed and were even considered a liability. Woman's response was to turn against her own femininity. Mary Wollstonecraft launched feminism with her book Vindication of the Rights of Women (1792). Proclaiming that women were identical to men, she dedicated feminism to the achievement of maleness in women. According to Robinson, "the feminist credo thoroughly discredited feminine needs and characteristics and substituted male goals for female goals."(53) The other response to the industrial revolution was not feminist, but "Victorian" but it also rejected femininity. Robinson says Victorian women took "revenge" on men by denying women had any sexual feelings. They "were amazingly successful in convincing men in general and even the scientists of the day that frigidity was indeed a basic attribute of the female." (54) Thus, feminists and Victorian women laid the foundations for modern female neurosis. "The depreciation of the goals of femininity, biological and psychological, became part and parcel of the education of millions of American girls. Homemaking, childbearing and rearing, cooking, the virtues of patience, lovingness, givingness in marriage, have been systematically devalued. The life of male achievement has been substituted for the life of female achievement." (55) The feminist-Victorian antagonism to men was handed down from mother to daughter so that "to millions of women, hostility towards the opposite sex seems almost a natural law. Although many a modern women may pay lip service to the ideal of a passionate and productive marriage to a man, underneath she deeply resents her role, conceives of the male as fundamentally hostile to her, as an exploiter of her. She wishes in her deepest heart, and often without the slightest awareness of the fact, to supplant him, to exchange roles with him." (emphasis mine, 56) Robinson says that women have blamed their problems on the outside world instead of looking within for the real problem and the real solution. She says that if feminism had brought women happiness in relationships or careers, the game might have been worth it. "But it hasn't been. The game has brought frigidity and restlessness and a soaring divorce rate, neurosis, homosexuality, juvenile delinquencyall that results when a woman in any society deserts her true function." (56) Dr. Robinson writes that once the emotional "log jam" is removed, a woman's natural instincts will flow and health will be restored. Essentially this involves "allowing herself to trust her husband in a very deep sense. It means that she finally realizes that she no longer has to fear or oppose his strength, but that she can rely on it to protect her, to give her the secure climate necessary for the full flowering of her femininity." (153) On the other hand, the woman who mistrusts her husband's love and, as a consequence, her own femininity has a "difficult, painful, frenetic" approach to life. She is at war with herself. In bed, she has to feel "in control all the time." For a profound vaginal orgasm, Robinson writes, "the excitement comes from the act of surrender. There is a tremendous surging physical ecstasy in the yielding itself, in the feeling of being the passive instrument of another person..." (158) Robinson regards the clitoris as a masculine vestige. She implies that even if a woman is sexually active and mechanically adept she may still be frigid. Feminine sexuality depends on "absolute trust" in a man, which enables a woman to fully receive and fully respond. Dr. Robinson believes that there is nothing in life as important as love. Marriage is the key to our development as human beings. It is through this relationship that the power of love is felt in the world. "Love means, in its very deepest sense union; union between individuals...It is the most basic and profound urge we have and its power for good is illimitable... the lover partner becomes as important as oneself...This fact is why real love never leads to domination or to a struggle for power..." (129) The significance of The Power of Sexual Surrender is profound. By coercing women to abandon their femininity and usurp the male role, feminism throws a spanner in the natural heterosexual mechanism of humanity. The consequences are dire. Millions of women are condemned to emotional and physical isolation. Similarly, men are deprived of the role of protector and provider essential to their psychological development and fulfillment. The triumph of such a manifestly wrongheaded ideology, and the suppression of the truth, signifies that control in the world has passed to a malignant force. As I have shown in previous articles an amoral elite power fosters feminism as part of a long-term agenda to dislodge western civilization from its religious and cultural moorings. The tax-exempt foundations, the elite media, the CIA and the Communist Party of the USA are all behind the promotion of sexual dysfunction in the guise of feminism. The purpose is to destroy the nuclear family, decrease population, stunt human development and destabilize society. Our government is part of this elite agenda that aims to create a materialist, fascist "New World Order". Feminists who oppose the NWO are unwitting agents of it. Finally, where does this leave the female "identity crisis"? Men and women must be free to find fulfillment in any way they please. A woman can have a career. Robinson's work suggests that a woman need not give up her femininity if her career takes second place to her love of husband and family. The world (men women and child alike) is starved for the feminine principle: beauty, grace, love. This article could as easily have been titled: "Wanted: A Few Good Women." - See more at: http://www.savethemales.ca/290502.html#sthash.rfkBljeG.dpuf"
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women should go back to the kitchen
by never a jw ini found on another thread a quote from awake 1967 aug 22,page 27-28. it's from an article where the wt proves that women should acquiesce to their husbands.
within the article i found something that suggests more intellectual dishonesty from the wt writers.. that it is in the best interests of both.
sexes for man to take the lead is also supported.
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More evidence of the WT "thesis", which is supported by 1 Timothy 2:12, a book that most scholar agree was not written by the apostle Paul, but somehow managed to get in the Bible Canon.
"I Do Not Permit A Woman to Excercise Authority over a Man - Why?" August 22, 1967 AWAKE!
The female skull is lighter and its cranial capacity is about 10 percent smaller that that of the male...True, mere brain size in itself is not as important as brain quailty, but where the brain quality is the same the larger brain has an advantage. ...Implicit in these findings is that man is advantaged by a greater sized brain...women must learn the art of 'eternal acquiescence' and 'deep altruism' in dealing with their husbands if they want to find happiness."